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Brunton Raptor Foldable Canister Stove with Piezo Ignition
Equipment DetailsManufacturer: Brunton Brand: Brunton Model: F-RAPTOR Product features: - Comes with a Piezo electric ignition
- Precision simmering control
- Tough nylon case included
- One year warranty
- Large, sturdy pot supports for safe, easy use
Sports reviews of Brunton Raptor Foldable Canister Stove with Piezo IgnitionCustomer Review: Excellent product... once you get to know it Sport shop rating: 5 Stars
I just bought a Raptor and I have given the product itself 5 stars. (1) It's well constructed, (2) It really is compact. (3) When folded out for use it's quite solid. (4) The piezo igniter works BUT ONLY IF YOU KNOW HOW (more on this later) (5) It really does the job FAST. In a test run I heated two cups of water to hot-enough-for-coffee in about 90 seconds. (6) The flame control is excellent --- you can jack it up to a roaring blast or taper it down to a tiny simmer.
BTW, in case you're wondering, you don't need to use the Brunton brand of fuel canister. Also, in hindsight I would get the fold-out base for the fuel canister, but that's no reflection on the Raptor itself.
The only improvement I would make is to the INSTRUCTIONS relative to attaching it to the fuel canister and using the piezo igniter. Both require some pointers and caused me a lot of time-consuming hassle (and a good deal of second guessing myself) until I learned "the way of the Raptor".
(1) Attaching the Raptor to the fuel canister is simple, but I did encounter some unexpected and disturbing resistance. In a nutshell, in order to get it to produce gas, I had to learn to tighten the stove onto the canister in a way that (to me) feels unnaturally tight.
In my first attempt, I screwed the stove onto the fuel canister and torqued it down to what I felt was tight enough. The instructions say to screw it onto the canister "until secure. Do not overtighten." I work on cars so I'm careful about over-torquing bolts and I think I have a pretty good feel for what feels "right". Anyway, the connection felt plenty secure and I didn't want to overtighten. I then turned the control handle and --- no gas. So I tightened it some more, really hard. Still no gas. Finally I tightened it down REALLY HARD, and I mean HARD, like it couldn't physically go any further, to what I felt was way overtightening (I was overcoming the resistance of the rubber o-ring / gasket /grommet). Finally got gas... but now had a quandary: Does this need to tighten so much indicate I have a problem? And if I do, do I have a defective stove or a defective canister? So I went out and bought another canister...different brand, cheaper. But same experience as before. So I emailed Brunton and they said it sounded normal. "We tell folks not to over tighten as they could break the igniter, but you do have to mount the stove pretty snug. The rubber grommet should be depressed a bit when attached to the canister." I don't have a problem with that, but it would be nice to know in advance.
BTW, this heavy tightening may be endemic to all stoves that use the little isobutane canister with the Lindal valve, not just the Raptor, I don't know. But frankly I'm not sure an old person or someone with arthritis could do it sufficiently.
(2) The piezo lighter initially gave me fits. Using it is not intuitive, nor does it behave the same way as the piezo lighter on my BBQ grill. The instructions say "1. Carefully open the valve by turning the control handle counter clickwise so you can hear a small amount of gas escaping. 2. Press the Piezo ignition button to light the stove. 3. If the stove does not immediately ignite, close the valve... wait a few seconds and repeat the first two steps."
Instead, the directions should read: "USING THE PIEZO IGNITER SUCCESSFULLY IS NOT INTUITIVE. READ THESE INSTRUCTIONS CAREFULLY. 1. Carefully open the valve by turning the control handle counter clickwise so you can BARELY hear A WHISPER of gas escaping. THIS ISN'T FOR SAFETY REASONS; BELIEVE IT OR NOT, TOO MUCH INITIAL GAS WILL CAUSE THE PIEZO SPARK TO BE INEFFECTIVE! 2. Press the Piezo ignition button to light the stove. 3. If the stove does not immediately ignite, DON'T THINK YOU'RE NOT GIVING IT ENOUGH GAS; ON THE CONTRARY, YOU'RE TRYING TO GIVE IT TOO MUCH. Close the valve and then IMMEDIATELY re-open it but JUST BARELY, TO WHERE NOW YOU CAN'T EVEN HEAR EVEN A WHISPER OF GAS ESCAPING. CONTRARY TO WHAT YOU MAY EXPECT, THE PIEZO SPARK DOES NOT IGNITE A LARGE VOLUME OF GAS UNLESS, FOR SOME REASON, THE STOVE IS ALREADY HOT."
Now that I know how to use the piezo igniter, I have found it to be 100% reliable. However, I haven't used it enough to be able to report how durable it is.
Bottom line, I would DEFINITELY recommend this product to a friend, but I would also give them the above heads-up on what to expect.
Description of Brunton Raptor Foldable Canister Stove with Piezo IgnitionVapor Aluminum Cook Set. BIG BUCKS OFF! Super compact, light design. Just 1 3/4 x 1 1/2 x 2 1/2" folded, 5 ozs.; Burn time up to 1 1/2 hours at High output (on 8-oz. canister, not included); Rated to approx. 3,200W / 11,000 BTUs. Boil time for 1L water approx. 4 mins. (varies with temperature, fuel, altitude); Piezo electric ignition, a no-flame start; Precision simmering control; Large, sturdy pot supports; Tough nylon case included. Brunton Raptor Folding Camp Stove The Brunton Raptor Foldable Canister Stove is a simple butane stove that does everything well. The Brunton Raptor stove integrates an electric Piezo ignition onto a burner that gives you high output on a sturdy stainless steel platform. Crank out 11,000 BTUs with this reliable new cooker and boil a liter of water in just over four minutes. The Raptor folds down small (1.7 inch x 2.5 inches) and weighs a mere five ounces. The large and sturdy pot supports allow you to cook what you need when you need it. A tough nylon case is included. Feature Details: - 1.7 inches x 1.5 inches x 2.5 inches stove (folded)
- 5 ounces - Fuel: Isobutane canisters
- Rating: Approximately 3200 watts / 11,000 btu
- Burn time: Up to 1.5 hours at high output (one 8 ounce canister)
- Boil time (1 liter of water): Down to 4 minutes (varies with fuel, climate, altitude, temperature, etc.)
- Super compact, lightweight design
- Piezo electric ignition
- Precision simmering control
- Large, sturdy pot supports
- Tough nylon case included
- One-year warranty
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